Wisdom Wednesday feat. Garrett Cline from CLINE
Welcome to Wisdom Wednesday, a weekly series where we go behind the scenes with some of our favorite artists! This week we get the chance to have an encouraging conversation with Garrett Cline, one of the founding members from the band CLINE. We’ll chat about CLINE’s musical journey, how to steward what God’s given you and the best piece of advice Garrett’s ever received!
When asked how CLINE became a band, Garrett joked that since the band’s name originated from his last name, “Cline,” they’ve theoretically been around for a long time. Along with Garrett, CLINE is comprised of his brother, Darrick, and his wife, Jacqueyln. Darrick and Garrett met Jacqueyln in youth group while leading worship, and the three of them have been leading worship with one another at that same church ever since.
Garrett shared how he broke his dad’s number one rule: Don’t date a girl in the band. Garrett quipped that his dad’s rule was the only thing he’s ever been wrong about, because clearly, it worked out well for Garrett and Jacqueyln who are now married with a family of their own!
The three of them have been writing music for a long time together, performing their songs at camps and various events. In college, they started a rock band with a similar vibe to Switchfoot — emphasizing that they were Christians in a band, not necessarily a Christian band. They performed at Rocketown in Nashville and developed into what Garrett described as a “mini Paramore.” Except having a similar sound to an already well-known band at the time is the reason they were turned down from so many labels!
After that group fell apart, and right after Garrett and Jacquelyn got married, the three of them decided they wanted to continue making music. They kept writing but lacked the access to record at the level they desired. However, Garrett, Jacquelyn and Darrick continued to work diligently over the next few years looking for opportunities.
Then, an opportunity presented itself seven years ago to work with a country artist named Dylan Scott. That opportunity originated from various connections that Jacquelyn made while attending Western Kentucky University. From those connections, Garrett ended up flying out to California to perform with Dylan Scott and open for Little Big Town. After that, in need of a drummer, Darrick joined the following week! Garrett and Darrick toured and recorded with Dylan Scott, earning multiple platinum and gold RIAA certifications and developing tons of new relationships. They wanted to be obedient where they were at, but at the same time, they knew that there was more waiting for them. That’s when they decided they wanted to start getting serious about their music…
And CLINE was formed!
When coming up with a name for the band, they decided to use something all three of them shared, which was their last name. It was a gesture to the legacy of their family and spoke to the family vibe that their band represents. Their band and the family aspect of it goes beyond just Garrett, Derrick and Jacquelyn though; Garrett mentioned how their producer, Curt Gibbs, the staff members at their church and friends that they’ve made along the way have been just as much a part of their band.
Over the past year, Garrett said they’ve really had the opportunity to reflect how God works to accomplish His will. They haven’t had the typical journey as artists — moving to Nashville and performing on Broadway. God has blessed them immensely; and instead of having to work a 9 to 5 job to save up enough money to go into music full-time, they’ve been able to perform and lead worship the entire time while working toward their dream.
As an independent artist and self-funded, Garrett shared an encouraging word to other independent artists who are pursuing their dream and passion. He said, “If God wants something to happen, there’s nothing you can do to stop it. And if God doesn’t want something to happen, there’s no amount of money that can change that.”
Garrett went on to say, “If you feel called to do music, and you’re a Christian, you just have to do it with whatever resources you have. And know that tomorrow is not the end of your journey. Ephesians 3:20 says, ‘Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us.’ God’s dreams are so much bigger than the little glimpses He gives us. Wake up every day and do the work that the Lord has put in front of you that day.”
The best piece of advice Garrett said he received was from David Crowder five years ago, who said, “Live open-handed. Let God put things in, and let God take things out. Not that you won’t still have hard days, but if you live that way, you won’t get so discouraged.”
Garrett said they’re excited about continuing their pursuit of writing songs for the body of Christ while staying rooted in the local church. They are striving to provide the soundtrack for life as we all journey on this side of eternity.
You can check out CLINE’s music here.
Want to be a guest on the show or have someone you wish we’d have on? Email us at hello@marketingwithwisdom.com.
Kat:
Hi guys! Happy Wednesday! I hope all of you are having a great week and that your allergies are better. Mine last week were terrible. I could barely even talk.
Kat:
Hi everybody! Thanks for joining. Welcome to Wisdom Wednesday.
Kat:
Hi!
Wisdom:
Hey.
Kat:
How are you?
Wisdom:
I'm good! How are you doing?
Kat:
Good. Did you get a haircut?
Wisdom:
No. I will be next week.
Kat:
Nice! Your hair looks different today. I like it! Looks cool.
Wisdom:
Oh, thanks.
Kat:
Our special guest just joined. Should we go in and bring him on?
Wisdom:
Yeah.
Kat:
Okay, cool. Let me request them.
Kat:
It says they have to upgrade their app.
Wisdom:
Oh.
Kat:
Hey, so if you're watching this go do the update to your Instagram app so that we can add you to the thread, Garrett. I know you're watching this.
Wisdom:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Kat:
Are you having a good week, Wisdom?
Wisdom:
Yeah, it's been going fast. But yeah, it's been a good meeting. Yesterday morning, I think before even 11, I had five Zoom calls and some of them, I couldn't even stay for the whole thing. I just could hop in for a few minutes or something. So yeah, I feel like this week has been... I think today I have eight calls. It's been a little crazy.
Kat:
Oh yeah. Okay, if you're watching this right now, are you someone who loves Zoom or do you hate Zoom? I'd love to know, because I've been doing some personal stuff even over Zoom.
Wisdom:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Kat:
And that is tough.
Wisdom:
Yeah. I enjoy Zoom calls. It's where it hits, five back-to-back or eight in one day. It does drain me because I'm introverted. So yeah, I think my plan going forward is to have less per day, less Zoom calls per day but unfortunately, I can't always control that because things come up with clients and stuff.
Kat:
See, some of these people are saying, Grace said she loves Zoom and someone else said they don't mind that at all. So maybe I'm in the minority.
Kat:
It looks like our guest is back and with the upgraded version. So let's see if I can add them. Boom. We're really excited to introduce you guys to this artist. We just started working with them a few months ago. Is that accurate?
Garrett:
Hey!
Wisdom:
Hey!
Kat:
Hey!
Garrett:
Just not upgrade my apps.
Kat:
It's okay. Everybody, we would love to introduce you to Garrett, who is one of the founding members of Cline, the band. Welcome.
Garrett:
Yeah. Hey, thanks for having me.
Kat:
Yeah!
Garrett:
I'm kind of not down with Zoom. I'd rather just meet in person, but Wisdom's in Kansas City, so this is great.
Wisdom:
Yeah. The great thing about Zoom is you could get a lot of meetings in one day versus when you do in-person, but I do prefer in-person.
Wisdom:
Yesterday, actually we had a couple randomly show up to our office, which we... This is the first time we've had that happen since moving into our new office last July. They saw our sign outside says, Marketing with Wisdom Christian Marketing Agency. So they were like, "We're Christians and we have a non-profit and we write books and we'd love to talk to you about marketing." That was cool. It was very spontaneous, but that was cool to meet somebody in person locally that's needing marketing.
Garrett:
Yeah. That's pretty awesome.
Wisdom:
Yeah.
Garrett:
Come on.
Wisdom:
Yeah. So Garrett, thanks for joining us.
Garrett:
Yeah. Thanks for having me.
Wisdom:
We've been really enjoying working with you and your band. We'd love to just hear about how Cline came to be.
Kat:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Garrett:
Sure. Cline is my last name. I guess in theory, we've been around for a long time. We've been worship leaders together... My brother, Derek, my wife, Jacqueline, we've been doing worship together since we were teenagers. In youth group and the church that we still serve at, is kind of where we all met. I broke my dad's number one rule, which is never date the girl in the band. It kind of worked out. That's the only thing my dad's ever told me that I think he was wrong about.
Garrett:
We started writing music a long time ago and just did our songs at camps and [inaudible 00:05:52] and did all that. Then we had a little rock band in college, kind of along the lines of maybe a switch foot or Christians in a band, not [inaudible 00:06:07] Christian band.
Garrett:
We'd play at Rocketown in Nashville and we were kind of mini Paramore, I guess. Which is why we got turned down by labels a lot. It's like, "Well, there's already one of those" and Paramore was doing pretty well.
Garrett:
After that kind of fell apart, right after we got married, Derek and Jacqueline and I, we're still just kind of always still want to make music now. And so it was just down to the three of us and we started riding and kept going, kept going, kept going, but never really had the access to record music at the level we wanted to.
Garrett:
So over the years, kept working on it and then kind of in about seven years ago, I started working with this country artists, Dylan Scott, and Derek and I both joined his band and still are a part of his band, still tour with him. Did our first shows in over a year, last weekend with him and that we built all these relationships with all these people and kind of found some people that we really connected with and kind of kindred spirits, I guess, if to say it that way.
Garrett:
We were like, "Okay, we need to get serious about this. We need to release music". We feel very called to this. That's how Cline was formed. We use our last name. I could say it 15 different ways, the reason we use that name. A lot of it is just the legacy of our family. We felt... That's a pretty emotional topic for me, so if I start just bawling, you just deal with it.
Garrett:
My grandad on the Cline side, we called him daddy Gerald, and just the greatest man that's ever walked the face of the earth next to Jesus, in my opinion and it was kind of like, "Man, we can honor him by using that name". It kind of connects with the family vibe that we like to share.
Garrett:
We just really never clicked with any cheesy band name that we could come up with. They were like, "Okay, this project is Cline. It is what it is". Some people... If they hate it, they hate it. Whatever.
Garrett:
The only thing that's awkward about is when we put our name on t-shirts. It feels weird to me, but Jacqueline is telling me to get over it. That's how it came to be. It is us three, but it really involves so many people. It's Kurt Gibbs, who's producing us is a big part of it, friends we've made along the way, our other staff members at our church that kind of helped in bounce songs off of this and lead songs that we ride. It feels so much bigger than us, but that's where we are right now.
Wisdom:
Sweet. Awesome. For those of you guys watching us live, you can feel free to comment or leave us a question for Cline and Kat will monitor that and let us know if there's anything. Do you have anything that you saw that you want to share?
Kat:
Not really. Not so far. Lots of people joining this. Thanks everybody for dropping in. I do want to ask you Garrett, do people ask all the time, if Jackie is you guys is sister? Did they just assume that the three of you are siblings?
Garrett:
I don't know. Not really.
Kat:
Okay.
Garrett:
They assume that Derek and Jacqueline are brother-sister more than I think they assume Derek and I are.
Kat:
Oh, that's funny.
Garrett:
Derek and I don't look anything alike. Jaq and Derek's personalities are a lot more alike than mine.
Kat:
Yeah.
Garrett:
We kind of make it clear. We don't hide the fact that we're married. We don't really play by many rules. It just kind of it is what it is.
Kat:
Yeah.
Garrett:
That doesn't happen too often. Yeah.
Wisdom:
Yeah. I used-
Kat:
Oh, go ahead.
Wisdom:
Oh, I used to work with all sons and daughters and people would always think that they were married to each other, but they weren't.
Garrett:
Right. Right . Yeah.
Wisdom:
That was always kind of the awkward part of the PR and marketing.
Garrett:
Right, right.
Wisdom:
Yeah. So-
Garrett:
I guess, everybody loves a good love story.
Kat:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Wisdom:
Yeah. So you guys play for a Dylan Scott, how did you guys even end up getting involved with that?
Garrett:
It's the craziest thing. I went to college, all three of us still live in Bowling Green, Kentucky, which is an hour north of Nashville. We all went to college at Western Kentucky University here in Bowling Green. We weren't pursuing really any career other than just leading worship and serve in our church and that kind of thing. Weren't really pursuing a career in music or anything like that but Jacqueline had gone back to finish school. She had kind of had a couple of years that she was working full time and then went back to finish her degree. I was in school with a guy named Dallas Wilson. Dallas knew Dylan. His dad is a really well-known session drummer in town. He played on everything from 1990 to 2005, literally every song on the radio country. [inaudible 00:12:23]
Garrett:
Dylan lost a bunch of his bands at the same time. Dallas knew Jacqueline from school and called and said, "Hey, you ever thought about doing a country gig?" And I was like, "Nah, not really, but sure let's talk".
Garrett:
It was really a God thing. I had done just kind of a favor for Dallas, like played a little gig for free, basically with him and his dad. Jacqueline had kind of already... God had been telling her like, "Hey, something's coming. You're going to have to make a sacrifice for this next phase of life". She didn't really tell me that, so when Dylan called I'll say, "Well, Hey..." He's like, he called me to hire me. He had never met me, never heard me play. Not very smart [inaudible 00:13:26] but I said, "Well, let me ask my wife" and this is 2014. She's like, "Hey, God already told me this is coming. So yeah, you got to do that". I call him right back, five minutes later. It's like, "Okay, I'm in" and he's like, "Oh, okay. Great".
Garrett:
We flew out and I went to California and we opened for a little big town and that was it. That was almost seven years ago and about a week later he needed a full-time drummer and the guy he had wasn't working out, and I was like, "Well, I know a guy". Derek joined the next week and that was it.
Garrett:
That's what we did. We kind of got to experience his growth. We were in a little van with a little trailer, driving... I don't know, a thousand miles a weekend or whatever, and just grounded it out and then it turned into... Dylan started including us on his first record. That's the record that had all the kind of had the hits, that kind of really broke him.
Garrett:
We just didn't have the normal story. We didn't move to Nashville and go play on Broadway and try to figure it out. It was really just us. We were just trying to be obedient where we work and God orchestrated it. No doubt. Kind of all along, we felt like, "This is not the end game of this".
Garrett:
Just to play with Dylan Scott or just to... Like I said, we still play for Dylan. We still are employed by Dylan. We haven't quit or anything like that. It just felt like, this is part of the story.
Garrett:
That's how we met Kurt Gibbs who produces our Cline music that we've been really singing. That's how we've met a lot of the writers we're riding with. That's how we've met the publishers that are helping us out. It's been nuts for God to use that path, but also bless us with all this. Getting to experience the accolades that come with that industry. Getting to play on platinum records and gold records and number one country hits.
Garrett:
It's really cool. I think over the past year, we've been able to reflect on just how amazing it is. How God can use literally anything to accomplish His will. Instead of making us go work a nine to five for 10 years to save up enough money to make a record, He let us do music.
Garrett:
Out of that is flowing what naturally comes out of us, which is songs for the church. It's really amazing to sit here and say it out loud and hear myself saying it. It sounds almost... It is a dream. We've literally lived in our wildest dreams.
Garrett:
Jacqueline has been waiting patiently for the time for God opened the door for us to do what we've always done. I don't know if professional is the right word, but in a place that can really do it in a way that can really reach people. I guess. Record at a level that is that a quality that it can actually be used by people in these about churches and that kind of thing.
Garrett:
We're excited just to be able to keep going. We just literally try to wake up every day. Some days I'm in Tampa, Florida with Dylan Scott and some days we're on music or writing a song for the church. It's cool to live in that reality, I guess, to see this validation of God doing what I've always thought he was doing.
Wisdom:
So you guys are independent bands, right?
Garrett:
Yeah. Yeah.
Wisdom:
You're doing self funding, everything.
Garrett:
Self funding our record. Yeah.
Wisdom:
Yeah. There's a lot of people that are watching or listening to this on our podcast later that are independent artists and maybe they've been doing it for a long time and they don't have maybe the income source that you guys might have being able to tour with a big country artist.
Wisdom:
We talked to a lot of independent artists that just feel discouraged and they kind of look at the numbers that they're seeing and they feel deflated or they have this wrestle in their heart about like, "Am I doing the right thing? Should I throw in the towel" kind of thing. What's something that you would say to that artist? Let's say you're having coffee with that artist, what would you say to them to encourage them?
Garrett:
Oh man. First off, shout out to Brett Perkins who just joined.
Wisdom:
Oh yeah.
Garrett:
The journey worship record is going to be sick, but you need to talk to him later. He's really awesome. If I'm having coffee with that guy, I'm basically having coffee with myself because that was me about 12 months ago.
Garrett:
When Dylan wasn't at the level tick- We weren't on salary. I lost my job a year ago and simultaneously God's saying, "Trust me". It's like, "Okay, but I got a kid, daycare is expensive". We go to put our house in the market, whatever is going on. All I can say to that person as my testimony of, "If God wants something to happen, there's nothing you can do to stop it and if he doesn't want something to happen, there's no amount of money you can pay to make it happen".
Garrett:
I think there's really... The music business is business. It costs money. You have to pay people but if you feel called to write music for the church, released music, not even for the church, if you just feel like, "I'm just called to do music", even if it's in a secular setting and you're a Christian in that setting, I think you just have to do it. You do it with whatever resources you have. You do the most you can with what you got and know that tomorrow is not the end of your journey.
Garrett:
Where Cline is in 10 years, I'm probably not even going to be able to imagine what that is. It's Ephesians 3:20, that God can do immeasurably more than we could ever hope or imagine or dream up. God's dreams are so much bigger than the little glimpses He gives us.
Garrett:
I think that's the daily encouragement I try to speak to myself and because all of a sudden after I'm 32, we've been trying to do this for 15 years. This is the time we've ever released music that we're like, "Okay, we see what God was doing in all of this".
Garrett:
That's my encouragement is that you wake up every day and you do the work that the Lord puts in front of you that day, whether it's a Starbucks and you're trying to save up enough money to cut a single or you get to go on Winter Jam Tour and you're David Crowder. Whatever day you're in, you just got to really lived open-handed, which is something David Crowder told us. That's one of the most amazing piece of advice I ever got was from Crowder. He was like, "You just got to live open-handed and let God put things in and let God take things out". That was probably five years ago. That was way before Cline Music.
Garrett:
It was just like, "If you live that way, you don't get so discouraged". I'm not saying you won't have hard days. I still have hard days. Check still showed up out of nowhere that I had that helped us buy diapers. If you're faithful, God is faithful and that's not prosperity gospel. I'm not driving a G wagon, but my needs are met and we're doing something that we're more excited about than anything we've ever done.
Garrett:
And somehow it just keeps working out. And so that's it. I think the encouragement is the testimony that you think back to all the times God provided for you and you go, "Okay, I'll see where God met my need there. He met my need there and if He's called me to this, He's going to open the door and all I have to do is be faithful to death".
Wisdom:
Yeah. Amen to that. I mean, that's exactly how even Christian Music Marketing Marketing with Wisdom started as a big leap of faith and just trusting God to provide. He's been providing for us. There's obviously days that are harder than others, there's days that I might feel discouraged because of something happening, but we know that God's faithful and He's consistent. He doesn't change. He doesn't veer off of his word. I think holding onto that-
Garrett:
We think God is like us.
Wisdom:
Yeah.
Garrett:
We think... because I changed. I'm sad one morning and then I'm happy the next one and I'm beat up and nothing has changed, but I've changed. We just have to constantly remind ourselves that God doesn't.
Wisdom:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah.
Kat:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Lots of comments about all of this. Garrett thank you so much for just being authentic to who you are and who God's made you to be and for just being willing to share so much of you guys' story, how you got here and really... I mean, you said it multiple times, but you're just testifying about what God has done in your own life.
Garrett:
Absolutely.
Kat:
I think that's a huge challenge to any artists anywhere just like, "Has God called you to this? Okay. Then trust Him to make it happen. Do the things that are in front of you steward the gifts you've been given, and then God will take care of it".
Garrett:
There's just not a lot of... My buddy, I was talking to him about... We had this basically the exact same conversation a couple of days ago on the phone and it was like, "There's not a lot of examples in the Bible of success stories like we want to have and especially in the music industry or in Christian publishing".
Garrett:
Most of the people God lifted up in the Bible were suffering. If you can somehow... and Wisdom, I think we've talked about this before is like, if you can somehow do what God's called you to do, whether it's start Christian Music Marketing or release worship songs to the church or be a plumber, God will give you the platform He wants you to have and it's your job to be content in that. If you're content in that, and you're not striving and you're not reaching for success, but you're reaching for His glory, then you don't really have to worry about how this all unfolds. He's going to unfold it. He's going to finish the work.
Wisdom:
Yeah. Amen.
Kat:
Yeah.
Wisdom:
Yeah. One thing that reminded me when you were talking about the Bible is how David, who wrote most of the songs he didn't write to write for CCLI, he didn't write to write for these people that listen to it or play it on Spotify, he wrote out of the overflow of his heart. It was his worship to God and imagine if he actually got royalties from all the people stealing his lyrics now.
Garrett:
Right.
Wisdom:
But that wasn't his purpose. He was writing to write to God. It was his communication vehicle to God too. I think a lot of times, we could get sidetracked from writing from that place of wanting to get closer to God and communicate with God and have communion with Him, and a lot of times, when you get it in the writing room, you can lose track of that and write for some other target that's not meant to be.
Garrett:
Absolutely. Yeah. There's no replacing... No. We were just talking about this with our worship staff yesterday. We're doing some youth group worship leader training for some kids at our church. We're trying to communicate that there's no way to replace devotion to Christ.
Garrett:
You can't go to [inaudible 00:26:51] song writing workshops to replace that devotion to Christ. That's what's been really kind of amazing about our journey, is all of our... if you want to call them connections in the music industry or country because of our work with Dylan. And because of that, we've gotten to write songs with guys like Mo Pitney, who's a country artist, who doesn't write worship music. Who's a Christian. Guys like [Chandler Baldwin 00:27:17] and the band Lanco, who's a Christian.
Garrett:
They've come in... They don't know any rules. They don't know what CCLI really is. They don't understand CTM radio, and because they don't know the rules, it's been some of the most pure, authentic songs we've ever been a part of writing because it had nothing to do with the business.
Garrett:
We've written with some really great writers that writes [inaudible 00:27:46] worship every day. I'm not knocking that at all. But to your point, these guys who don't know the rules, there just seems to be a really natural response to God in those times. The writing session really does become worship and then it really makes those songs translate well at church.
Garrett:
I hope that when those songs come out, that people connect with them, but it's kind of like they've already served their purpose, even if people don't. Because we, in that moment had a response to God for his goodness and nobody was really worried about what the rules were.
Wisdom:
Yeah.
Garrett:
It's really a cool thing to kind of cross from that world into... bring those people into a worship leading world that aren't familiar with the music as a genre.
Wisdom:
Yeah.
Kat:
Literally. Does everyone have time for at least one question we just got-
Garrett:
I got all day. I blocked out the whole afternoon.
Kat:
This one, all the eight hours of this. This question is from [DanielH Official 00:29:03] and it said, "I love this man" there's a comma, not like he loves you, but he loves your content. He said, "How do you balance it openhanded approach with healthy ambition, dreams and goals?"
Garrett:
Man, that's a great question. I think it's... That's so hard. I believe God places dreams in your heart and the dream he placed in your heart is a glimpse of what he's actually going to do, because I don't think our human minds can understand it. And also if He told us what it was going to cost us to do His calling, I don't know that we would do it.
Garrett:
If God would have said, "Hey, I'm going to give you a platinum record", you've always dreamed of that "...will give you platinum record but you got to go ride in a van for four years and be away from your family 200 days a year". I think I might've said no.
Garrett:
Okay, what glimpse has God given you? So there's your dream. There's your ambition and then your ambition is to glorify Him today. And then tomorrow you glorify Him that day and then if you get a meeting with a publisher, you glorify Him in that meeting, and then if you get to go be the opener on Winter Jam, you glorify Him with that opening slot on Winter Jam.
Garrett:
I think that's how you do it. It's a literal day to day devotion to God, glorifying Him. As my dad has always told me, "Enjoy the work the Lord gives you today", and today for me, I had to do some website stuff for my church and tonight I'm going to leave worship. That's my deal. That's what God's given me today. Tomorrow... I actually, I hope tomorrow it is we're going to the hospital to have this baby. Jacqueline's extremely pregnant. So that's going to be my work tomorrow probably.
Garrett:
The way you shelve your or keep your ambition, a holy ambition is like, "Do I want to be rich or do I want to glorify God?" Because if you glorify God, your needs are going to be met and if He makes you rich, you're glorifying God so you'll be generous. You don't have to worry about it. Does that make sense? I felt like I could talk on that one all day. That one [crosstalk 00:31:39].
Wisdom:
I think we just got another question.
Kat:
Yeah.
Wisdom:
All right. If you could give us a 30, 45 second answer to this, [inaudible 00:31:51], what has been the most beneficial part of co-writes for you?
Garrett:
Man, I think the most beneficial part... Well, I'll say it's twofold. One is we've been in the room with people who have written 10 times the amount of songs we've written and have really honed in on their craft at songwriting.
Garrett:
Normally we come in with, "Here's what our heart wants to say to God" and they're able to use their craft, just like an author or a carpenter. If you say, "I want to build this house" and you can go, "Here's my idea" and then the carpenter knows how to build it.
Garrett:
That's been the most beneficial part of songwriting. They know how to take an idea, stand it up, put walls on it and paint it real pretty. It helps you communicate it. I think that's probably been the biggest thing is just taking an idea from our heart and help us communicate in such a way that everyone in the building can connect with it.
Wisdom:
That's awesome. Yeah. That's good. Well, you guys have a couple of songs out already and I'm sure a lot more to come. So if you're watching her listening, be sure to check out Cline that's C-L-I-N-E and connect with them on Instagram and any other platform. I think you guys are also on Tik Tok, right?
Garrett:
We're on the Tik Tok. I'm old, but I'm on it.
Kat:
That's awesome. Yes. Be sure to check them out. I know you guys have an upcoming single pretty soon, so make sure you go follow them on Spotify and yeah thank you. Thank you so much for coming on and just sharing from your heart and we can't wait to see what God is going to do.
Garrett:
Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate you guys and to anyone watching it is so worth to be trying to try to be connected with Wisdom in Marketing. I Mean these guys... God has continuously paired us with people who have this view of music business. Being able to use it in such a way that glorifies God, and there are a lot of people who aren't like that, but Wisdom is that. We're so thankful to get to work with him and just the way we've been able to connect. It's worth all your time and energy and resources to get on Wisdom's team.
Wisdom:
That means a lot. We'll pay you later for saying that.
Garrett:
Probably coffee when we go to Kansas City [crosstalk 00:34:32].
Wisdom:
We'll definitely. Yeah, we really appreciate you and it's an honor and a privilege to serve you guys with your marketing.
Garrett:
Yeah. Thank you.
Kat:
Yeah. If you would love to get in contact with us, feel free to get started at the link in our bio. We have a contact form there, and we'd love to hear what you've been making and love to connect with you.
Kat:
So thank you guys so much, both Wisdom and Garrett for being on here. Thank you to everyone watching. We will be back next month. Same time, same place and we'll see you guys then.
Garrett:
See ya.
Kat:
Bye guys.
